10 years later and the French are making a stink (Concorde accident)

flarearrow · #1 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 10:12 AM

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langjie · #2 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 10:41 AM

french = fail

Kmikl · #3 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 11:49 AM

109 people died... and you'd like no-one to be responsible?

Al Bundy's Friend Griff · #4 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 11:59 AM

^accidents happen. If I was an airline company I would simply stop flying to France. If I was a plane manufacturer I would stop selling to companies that fly to France. If I was French I would kill myself to make a better world.

Kmikl · #5 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 12:07 PM

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^accidents happen. If I was an airline company I would simply stop flying to France. If I was a plane manufacturer I would stop selling to companies that fly to France. If I was French I would kill myself to make a better world.

Why limit it to just French?

Accidents happen, yes. If there was criminal doings, its in no ones' interest to just forget about it. If there wasn't though, this will be a waste of their money, and airlines will just jack up their prices for a good reason (for once).

langjie · #6 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 01:18 PM

It's just that the French are blaming everyone else but themselves. that's why they suck

Black Dragon · #7 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 01:52 PM

^i guess they learned that from us americans.

and hard to believe it's been 10 years already.

langjie · #8 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 02:34 PM

^that maybe true, but at least our attention spans are short so we don't bother saying anything after the first week

**Special** · #9 (**permalink**) 02-01-2010, 05:51 PM

Regardless of the french the Concorde was bad ass.

Kmikl · #10 (**permalink**) 02-02-2010, 06:09 AM

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Regardless of the french the Concorde was bad ass.

..because half of them were British.

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It's just that the French are blaming everyone else but themselves. that's why they suck

The contention is that there was a piece of debris (I think it was a titanium rub-strip) from an American Airlines DC-10 that landed earlier that pierced a tire and then the tire shredded and the tire belt shreds then damaged the engine.

I think they're contending that the rub-strip was improperly secured and that constitutes negligence.

langjie · #11 (**permalink**) 02-02-2010, 09:57 AM

yes, but it's a pretty big design flaw (probably the French 1/2 of the design) that a flat tire can destroy the plane.

overall there's blame to go around

carfreak67 · #12 (**permalink**) 02-02-2010, 10:39 AM

How is not French Airport's fault that they allowed a plane to use a runway that had debris on it?
Isn't that part of the safety aspect of running an airport?
No one in the ground control crew or runway crew saw the debris and removed it before allowing the Concorde to take off?

It's everybody's fault but their own, I guess.

Black Dragon · #13 (**permalink**) 02-02-2010, 12:03 PM

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yes, but it's a pretty big design flaw (probably the French 1/2 of the design) that a flat tire can destroy the plane.

that's like having your car explode if you run over a nail...

Kmikl · #14 (**permalink**) 02-03-2010, 03:12 PM

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How is not French Airport's fault that they allowed a plane to use a runway that had debris on it?
Isn't that part of the safety aspect of running an airport?
No one in the ground control crew or runway crew saw the debris and removed it before allowing the Concorde to take off?

It's everybody's fault but their own, I guess.

Most airports don't look for [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register], there's too many aircraft taking off & landing to do it daily (I believe, could be wrong there) and it takes way too many people and too much time. The Airforce doesn't even do it that often because they have too much space to survey and clean up. I know the Navy does an FOD sweep after every round of aircraft carrier launches and landings, but then again, they have a finite amount of room to work with and there's a lot more riding on any damage to the aircraft or ship.

I digress though... Sorry.

Civil Aircraft don't normally shit or peel off parts, so it's comparatively rare that something like this would happen. The contention is that American Airlines is responsible because they didn't secure the rub strip properly, it popped off the aircraft and then went into the Concorde's tire and set a chain reaction off.

I mean, birds take down more aircraft than anything... but airports don't have to have an avian abatement program (as far as I know anyhow).