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Old 03-08-2008, 10:04 PM
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Default Radar Detector: the V1

ok before someone posts about Radar detectors, I figured I would chime in and explain why I strongly believe the Valentine1 is the best Radar on the market and my experiences. I guess you could call this a Biased Review.

Background: I purchased my V1 in 1999 and still have it today. It has spent time in a '93 Integra GS, a 2000 Integra GS-R, our 2006 Ridgeline, and now our 2007 Altima 3.5SE It is currently in the middle of the windshield but was hardwired in the integras above the Rearview Mirror with a remote display in easy viewing location. I've owned bell, Escort, Passport, and Radioshack detectors going back to the mid 80's.

My theory about Radar detection: radar detection is about information. A Detector cannot step on the brakes for you or save you from a ticket. It can only warn the driver of a radar source in the vicinity and from there, they need to be the one to make the decision to step on the brakes. The more information a detector can provide to the driver, the better a decision they can make. This, is where the Valentine One excels because it has the capability to provide more information than any other detector.

All Detectors (half decent ones) provide decent range capability and type of detection. It's the extras that will make a radar detector stand out. (extras in regards to actual radar detection, not compasses and other miscellaneous "features"). Some people will argue that one radar detector can detect 2.5 miles away while the V1 is only 1.5 or 2 miles. Police can't detect your car that far away and chances are, by the time you go the 2.5 miles, you'll have forgotten about the cop unless the radar is still firing.

Laser detection: honestly, what's the point. if you get hit with a beam, you're done. your best hope is to pickup stray "splatter" from the car being fired at in front of you but those chances are fairly rare to begin with. Most laser detection is adequate and the V1 is at the top of this group... but again, it's still pretty pointless.

The V1 gives the driver the standard detection alerts such as signal, type, strength but it also lists the number of sources as well as the direction of the most dangerous source. This provides the driver with more information so they can make that decision to step on the brake or not.

Once a driver understands how the V1 works it is a matter of learning the areas you drive through regularly. If you normally see 3 radar signals when driving through a certain area and on a random trip, you pick up 4 signals, it's time to slow down. If you get a signal from behind that is slowly increasing, it's time to slow down.

The most common complaint about the V1 is the price. It's $400 from V1 and has been at least since I purchased mine in '99. Some places are gouging at $450 or even $500 but you have always been able to pick one up direct for $400. What most people don't realize is that you can upgrade your V1 by sending it in if new features/detection types become available. If they send you a whole new unit (as would be the case with mine due to it's age), it would be an entirely new boxed unit with everything (and you only have to send them your radar). If it is just a software/Firmware upgrade, the cost is much smaller than purchasing a new radar and you can upgrade for life. None of the upgrade options are cheap (Most inexpensive comes in around $50 I believe and the upgrade for mine - new unit - would be between $200 & $300). As I said, It's not cheap but well worth it knowing you have the best radar out there.

In My opinion, the V1 is just That good of a Detector and was well worth the money 9 years ago and definitely worth it today. If you talk to a V1 owner, they'll never buy anything else. Some who have not taken the time to learn about the V1 but just want it to "work" may complain that it's over priced. it's kind of like those people who don't understand why their car doesn't do something but never took the time to learn about the car (by reading the owner's manual).

Just my biased review of the V1

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Oh, and as a side note: The most dangerous type of driver is the one that steps on the brake every time the radar goes off . You can see them at every construction area jamming on the brakes about a half mile before the Roadwork Sign. Those are the people who cause accidents and should be allowed to drive, let alone have a detector.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:58 PM
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Thanks for sharing that. I just got a ticket yesterday morning doing 60 in a 45. A detector would have prevented it. I usually dont speed that much on my road but the 1 time I get a little careless..BAM...a set of blue lights appear. I am now considering getting a detector but I really didnt know where to start looking and thanks to you...I do!
Question for ya...I think detectors are illegal to use in N. Carolina, so Id prolly have to hide the unit in the car and wheres the best place to put it that the reception wont be affected or would I be better off getting 1 with a seperate sensor that mounts in the grille or something?
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Radar Detectors are Illegal in Virginia and Washington DC. Everywhere else is legal.

I Highly recommend the V1 with the remote display. If you mount the radar high in the car (above the rearview mirror) it's almost impossible for someone outside the car to see and it is easy to reach. The concealed display works great too if placed right at the base of the windshield next to the driver's A Pillar. One issue with the V1 is that the display is so large it can easily be seen by a car behind you so if the unit is placed in the middle or higher part of the windshield (the more effective areas for detection). The remote display disables the main display so if you have it mounted low but in your sight, it works best.

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is it just as effective to have it hardwired and placed on top of the rear view mirror as it is to have it in the middle of the windshield? or is it better to have it in the middle? my only concern would be theft...
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:23 AM
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is it just as effective to have it hardwired and placed on top of the rear view mirror as it is to have it in the middle of the windshield? or is it better to have it in the middle? my only concern would be theft...
I had the V1 in both of my integras, hardwired, for four years right above the rearview mirror and had no issues with theft. I also had a 10 speaker stereo in the GS-R with a clarion Head unit. Theft Deterrence was "the club" right above my rearview was the V1 on the right and my EZ Pass on the left. The EZ pass was noticable but the V1 (especially at night) was barely even visible unless you were in the car or kneeling at the driver's door looking up. The Remote display was behind the NJ inspection sticker so it wasn't visible either except from a few locations (passenger window but you would have to be looking for it - the display is small and black.)

as for being so high in the car, functionality wise, not an issue.
- Radar- Every radar detector can pick up a signal from miles away so where sensitivity used to be an issue (as many couldn't go more than 1/2 mile), it has become a moot point with units like the V1 or Passport 9800 etc.. (It's kind of like the question of which is better in NYC, a ferrari or lamborghini? they both have WAY more power then you'd be able to use - same with the V1 they have way more range than is realisticaly usable) The V1 also has (2) radar detectors, unlike any other unit out there; one for the rear and one for the front. Because of this, the V1's have better rear sensitivity than any other.
- Laser - See definition of "pointless" - Actually higher in the car is better for laser because any "splatter" from a car's windshield in front of you will probably be higher up (and the splatter is all you worry about because if you are hit with laser, you're done)

IMO, above the Rearview is the best place for detectors as it provides the best front protection, great rear protection, and it's not a glaring Item sitting in the middle screaming take me.

also, I wouldn't think Radar detectors are as big of a draw for theft as GPS or stereos as you can pick up a detector for $30 and there wouldn't be much resale value. but I guess Everything is something to someone.

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Anyone live in, visit, or go through the VA or DC area? I don't live there... but I have a cousin there and go every once in a while... I was wondering how the V1 stands up to the radar detector detectors... I know I've read its pretty undetectable (don't know how true that is)... but not as good as the ones specifically made for beating them (i.e. Bell STi Driver)

Anyone have any input?

EDIT: hm... looks like they say it can beat the VG2... but....

"Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1. "

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Most other Radar detectors are "undetectable" because they shut off when they sense VG2. The V1 supposedly uses a different technology so that it' can't be picked up by the Detector Detectors.... until possibly now. This'll be either a firmware upgrade for V1 or maybe even a hardware upgrade once they get their hands on a Spectre RDD. The question for most now would be; should I pick up a V1 now or wait? I'd say Contact V1 to find out what the upgrade cost is likely to be and then plunk the money down now if the cost isn't all that high for the upgrade. gives you protection now and the upgrade to the new one when available. It may take 2 weeks or it may take 9 months. It sounds like V1 doesn't even know.

As for police, usually new technology takes a while to be implemented because of cost. It sounds like it is new hardware and that will probably take a while to filter down to local police and probably the "staties" will have it in some cars but not all. (only the new cars will probably be equipped as I'm guessing it's not worth the cost to retrofit older cars).

It's amazing that I've had mine for about 9 years and it's still running strong. Eventually I'll upgrade I think. Maybe I'll move this one to the Ridgeline and pick up a new one for the Altima.

Hmmmm Govt rebate check... Hmmmmm

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yepp... I read the first part about it not turning off on the faq site, thanks ;)

I wonder what they use in VA and DC
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What are some other radar detectors I should consider?
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ive got a cobra and have not had a problem yet but i am about to try and see if the whistler has a little better range
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What are some other radar detectors I should consider?
IMO, there isn't another that should be considered but....The one that usually gets compared against the V1 is the Escort Passport 8500 X50 and is supposed to be really pretty good.
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ive got a cobra and have not had a problem yet but i am about to try and see if the whistler has a little better range
Cobra's aren't rated real well for range and unless you go top of the line for whistler, I'd stick with Escort or V1. For Cheaper Radars, range matters (mainly because the range isn't that great) but once you get into a better detector, range isn't that important because you'll pick the cop up SOOOO far ahead that an additional 1/4 mile means nothing.

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Spectre RDD Radar Detector Review and Testing - RadarBusters.com Just in case any one wanted to read about the Spectre.

I've heard of V1's getting picked up, but not by the Spectre. The VG-2 stealthing is very good with V1, so I'm guessing the problem was the owner of the V1 left it out in the open (in visual range) when a police officer pulled him over. Just bare in mind, in Canada a cop can swear out a ticket stating they see an illegal radar detector and pull you over based on that, and use an approximate speed off the speedometer. Radar detectors are only legal in Canada in BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan I believe.

If you have a V1 that's fairly old you can actually get it upgraded from the factory for free or at a pretty low cost IIRC.
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