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Rys2k8Altima 02-27-2008 09:14 PM

Official HID Thread: Questions and Pictures HERE
 
Here is that start of what should be the OFFICIAL HID THREAD:


What is and HID Light

Quote:

High-intensity discharge (HID) lamps are electrical lamps producing light by means of an electric arc between tungsten electrodes housed inside a translucent or transparent fused quartz or fused alumina tube. This tube is filled with both gas and metal salts. The gas facilitates the arc's initial strike. Once the arc is started, it heats and evaporates the metal salts forming a plasma, which greatly increases the intensity of light produced by the arc and reduces its power consumption.

Compared with fluorescent and incandescent lamps, HID lamps have much higher efficacy: they give a greater amount of light output per watt of electricity input.

Like fluorescent lamps, HID lamps require a ballast to start and maintain their arcs. The method used to initially strike the arc varies: mercury vapor lamps and some metal halide lamps are usually started using a third electrode near one of the main electrodes while other lamp styles are usually started using pulses of high voltage.
Now that we have established that an HID Lamp is Composed of a bulb and a ballast, let the thread begin.


Here are the different color scales

http://www.mustangevolution.com/foru...67173-hid4.gif

gatorglaze 02-27-2008 09:51 PM

The all might needed HID thread. Hey i saw a wiring diagram from someone installing HID's WITH a relay. Anyone throw that up because the next thing im doing is HID's along with a relay.

Rys2k8Altima 02-27-2008 09:56 PM

Ill get it. It was in my HID thread on Nissanclub

Rys2k8Altima 02-27-2008 10:01 PM

this was made by Autoconcept at Nissanclub

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...2008_00000.jpg

This diagram is to add a harness to take the load of your stock wiring.

Jose3.5 02-27-2008 10:50 PM

Hello, i ArE No0b hERe.
WhEre cAn ibuy HID's n hoW can I insTAll tHem? Oh als0 wat siZe r the bULbs n h0w muCh dooS thEy coZt? ShUulD i pAyz soMEonE t0 inSTall tHem f0rS mE?:th_alc::signs042::bricks::shoot::rolleyes: ...

Rys2k8Altima 02-27-2008 10:52 PM

Dick...

Jose3.5 02-27-2008 10:57 PM

Sorry my name is not Richard, it is Jose:laugh:

Rys2k8Altima 02-27-2008 10:59 PM

Lol

Jose3.5 02-27-2008 11:04 PM

Look on the bright side. Your thread got stickied.:th_salute:

RockenZ 02-27-2008 11:23 PM

I was going to do the same thread... but I didn't have the time to find all the stuff needed... etc... Good Job!!! hopefully if we have a sticky that SPECIFICALLY say HID, maybe... JUST MAYBE... there will be a few less threads about it! :)

Another idea is to get a sticky for LED Interior? seemed to come up quite a lot... but we'll see! Great Job Rys2k8Altima! :)

gatorglaze 02-27-2008 11:36 PM

Somethings troubling me. The point of the relay was because HIDs were supposed to need 55w to work right and to draw power from the battery for the extra juice right? Im looking at a page right now thats McCulloch HIDs and it states 35w to power them up. Is this page wrong or is my understanding wrong?

Rys2k8Altima 02-27-2008 11:44 PM

The kit i have in my car is 35W. you can get either or. 55 being alot brighter, but they create more heat.

gatorglaze 02-27-2008 11:48 PM

Gotcha. I also just found the perfect kit. Its a pair of McCulloch HID kits WITH relays and all fuses and wiring needed. Its going for...230 on ebay which is cheaper then retail price of McCulloch's witch is around 280 WITHOUT relays. Looks like i know what im buying with my next paycheck. Still not sure 6000 or 5300k. I like the blue but i dont want to attract attention. Also from what ive read, the lights themselves kinda fade a bit after a certain period of time, don't know if theres any truth to it but then that would make the 6000k a bit LESS blue overtime which would work out great for me. If they only had a 5700k or something for the same price + same company.

QR 02-27-2008 11:49 PM

i will have a diagram of how temp on kelvin relates to color and output in just a sec ;)

Jose3.5 02-28-2008 12:33 AM

This is what my 6000k look like
http://www.supernissans.net/forums/v...0&d=1203919552

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/vbp...5&d=1203235739

The Rupp 02-28-2008 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rys2k8Altima (Post 1715)
this was made by Autoconcept at Nissanclub

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...2008_00000.jpg

This diagram is to add a harness to take the load of your stock wiring.

Also, this helps with the bulbs not firing up when set to "Auto"

QR 02-28-2008 01:51 AM

so what do these #'s mean?
well first off the k symbol means degrees kelvin
visible light ranges between 1000k-10000k anything below 1000k is infrared then microwave then radio (yes radio is light) and anything beyond 10000k is UV, then X-Ray then Gamma. all are dangerous to the human body and is blocked by the Ozone layer.

Now if a bulb was rated at 2500k, that means its peak temperature is 2500k, however, it also emits other lights from radio to gamma but in very small traces.

the best bulb temperature of bulb for light output is 5000k. 5000k is in the middle of the visible electromagnetic spectrum as seen in the figure below
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...atum/5000k.jpg
the blue in the middle of the blackbody diagram (which was made using paint) represents the amount of visible light outputted. you could see from the diagram that its emitting other lights but in a small quanity.

Now if you though bluish purple was cool, you might want to think again
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...atum/1000k.jpg
this is a blackbody diagram of a 10000k bulb. Note that the wave this time is higher, thats because the higher the kelvin the higher the higher the amplitude.
as you see the 10000k bulb is hardly emitting any visable light. however its emitting alot of UV rays which are dangerous to humans. and this is one of the reasons why its illegal

now the next diagram is going to show you a more dangerous light
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...tum/20000k.jpg
Note how low light emitting is. and also take a note of how much X-rays and gamma rays its producing. it's like having a spot light of radiation aimed at you.

the following diagram is of a very rare bulb but available on the market.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...atum/1200k.jpg
its basically pink. its pointless, even though you will get more output than a 10000k you wont be emitting any dangerous light rays. also note how low the wave is. Again the lower the kelvin temparature the lower the wave.


Now basically you are safe between 3000k and 6000k. but you might be hassled by the law if they see the 3000k

Rys2k8Altima 02-28-2008 09:00 AM

Heres My 8000k bulbs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Picture003.jpg

gatorglaze 02-28-2008 09:13 PM

Just purchased 6000K McCulloch HID kit WITH relays and fuses included for 260 WITH priority shipping. Gotta finding decent deals.

Oh and Rys2k8Altima, your lights are BLUE right? I can't really tell from the pictures, but in your opinion is it a HINT of blue or more closer to blue?

Rys2k8Altima 02-28-2008 09:17 PM

i guess I would say they are blue ish. I got my kit for 125 w/o the harness


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